Be careful when you feel confident in your knowledge of God: '...But Jesus answered and said to them, "You are mistaken, not understanding the Scriptures, or the power of God..." (Matthew 22:29)'

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Sunday, April 5, 2009

Throwing Palms and singing hallelujah: if they knew who Jesus was, why did they kill him?

Mark 11 and the chapters around it have always concerned me. Something just didn't seem right. Jesus went from being celebrated to crucified in a very short time. The same people who were calling him the Messiah, laying palms and their cloaks in the road, amazed at his speaking ability- very quickly seemed to do a 180 and insist he be crucified- in the place of a criminal. How did that happen? And what does it mean for us today?

Reading between the lines- obviously he upset the religious leaders of the day. He told them that what you put into your body does not defile you- but what comes out does. He told them that they worshiped tradition more than God. He told them to get their monetary interests out of the synagogue.

Also reading between the lines- the people laying palms on Palm Sunday seemed to be celebrating a political leader- "blessed be the kingdom of David". Not only did he threaten the religious leaders- one would think the Roman leaders would also be concerned with anyone who encouraged the people in terms of Jewish tradition. It must not have taken the religious leaders long to stir up the people against Jesus- but how?

My theory is that they just told the people the truth. That truth was that Jesus wasn't a political leader set to overturn Roman rule. They told the people what Jesus had told the Disciples not to tell anyone: that he was a spiritual Messiah that would save everyone's souls- not a political Messiah that would re-establish a Jewish state. If that was what the people were expecting and the Romans fearing, I would imagine it didn't take too much to convince either group that Jesus was a liability. Once the Romans figured out he was "just" a spiritual Messiah- they tried to get out of the spectacle, but the people insisted they follow through.

What makes my theory chilling to me is that I see many parallels to that time and today. I hear religious leaders quoting scripture with the confidence of the Sadduccees as to what it means. I see Christians and Jews convinced that government policies can bring back the Messiah- either the 2nd coming or the 1st- depending on your view. I see religious folk intimately worried with political issues and relating everything on Earth to religion. And I could just imagine Jesus coming around today and saying the same things to the religious today that he said to his disciples and to the Sadduccees and Pharisees he did long ago: 'You do not know the Lord'.

I have a friend who is convinced he can take scripture and understand how God works at the most fundamental level. I have a sneaking suspicion that, just as Jesus was frustrated with the religious of his day, we are still missing the proverbial big picture.

The Afterlife, the purpose of life, the nature of God, how "grace" works, all that stuff is beyond our capacity to understand- even if we had the textbooks on it all (it would be like giving a 2nd grader a college physics treatise). But- there are some underlying principles that DO matter, and I think those are what we should be concentrating on. Problem is, I'd argue we have not really identified those principles, or had the discourse of what they could be. Prior to that we can't even begin to discuss the why- why those principles are important. Would Jesus come back today and say we are still not getting it?

If the answer is "yes"- then what do we do to correct it? First step would be to assume we don't know what Jesus was getting at and to approach the Gospel like it was the first time we'd ever read it- without any assumptions guiding our understanding of it (no approved translations, no assuming it is the infallible word from God, no assuming that it is to be taken literally, etc.).

Second would be to see if there are any similarities in other religions, codes of law, universal understandings, scientific conclusions, etc. We wouldn't be searching for things like "Love God with all your heart"- which is intrinsically impossible to define, but the underlying principle behind it (be unselfish?). Likewise, the underlying principle of Grace seems to also be unselfishness- and modesty.

After a discourse on the underlying principles which seem to permeate all belief on this planet, we could then get into postulating why they might be important. And at the same time we could try to codify how to execute those principles in daily life.

Just a thought- maybe it is wrong, but if the Sadduccees and Pharisees had it wrong, it makes me wonder why we think we would have it right today- especially with so many claiming they have it "right"- and none seeming to be that similiar. Surely our religion has changed a lot since the Apostle Paul was struck blind on that lonely road. I do have a feeling, however, that it has stagnated some since Martin Luther nailed his 95 theses on the door at Wittenberg.

4 comments:

  1. Very interesting theory you have about why the people went from praising Him to crucifying Him. So if the religious leaders did that, does that mean, they DID know who Jesus was? and were knowingly helping the prophecy along? I mean, they were the ones who knew the "Word of God" the best.

    Are we still NOT getting it. Yep, I think we aren't. I consider myself as having been a Christian my whole life - - but I can tell you I didn't "get" that Jesus is the only way to salvation. I wish I could pin-point exact, hardcore facts and reasons for you. I know non-believers have asked me what brought me to that point of realization. I can say it was years of reading and re-reading the Bible. Personal reflection. I'll be honest, the more I read the more somethings seem SO clear, the more I realize I don't know. Its like God reveals things in stages and I wish that I could articulate what I have come to believe to non-believers. I have no spectacular conversion testimony that a lot of people do. No Paul experience. Is that what non-believers think it should be? That BAM! all of a sudden they'll believe that God is real and Jesus died on the cross to save them and everything from that point in life will be sunshine and prosperous? That isn't the reality of it for most of us.

    Good points to ponder.

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  2. That's a great question. Would be insidious if they "knew" who He was and still feared what He would do to them politically on Earth. I personally would doubt that they knowingly fulfilled scripture. I tend to think that they, like most humans, couldn't see the forest for the trees and only wanted to get Him out of their way so that He wouldn't mess up their political power. Jesus was constantly telling them that they did not know the Lord.

    I totally agree with you- the more I read, the less I am sure of what God is and what the Bible says (which isn't necessarily a bad thing). It follows with other types of learning- the more I read and understand other subjects, the more I realize that I don't know a lot. I am convinced that if we approach our faith in the same manner it is a natural endstate- that we must conclude that God is so infinitely great and mysterious that it is impossible to fully "know" Him, even through more study, and all attempts to declare otherwise are exercises in pride and immodesty (that is my opinion- I wholly concede I may be 100% wrong).

    And I agree with you on the "bam" experience- nothing like that for me. I know some people have had to go through personal crisis to "find" God- but I wonder at some of those persons' convictions- they seem too sure of themselves.

    And that is the ultimate obstacle to this way of thinking: to seek knowledge does not necessarily lead to surity- in fact it usually leads one to be less sure. And that can be a scary thing for some- especially those seeking a religion of comfort, relaxation, a refuge from mental anguish, and conviction. I have failed so far to see any Christians within the Bible or Jesus say that those things will naturally come to Christians- that we will all be hunky dory if we just accept Christ. Instead I see quite the opposite: only promises of struggle and frustration while on Earth.

    And ultimately that is where I think Christianity in the Western world has grown away from Jesus' teachings. For a little while that discipline and struggle was captured in the Judeo-Christian ethic of work and family discipline. Today I see mainly middle and upper class Christians who just want mental shelter from the pressures of the modern world. They want to be reassured that everything will one day be all-right.

    What a surprise (to us "Westerners") if we find the Afterlife to be a world in which all of the things we neglected here were exponentially worse. Maybe it would be better for us to be uncomfortable and worried now, so that we are less so later...

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  3. I didn't mean that the more I read the Bible the less I am sure of who God is. Completely the opposite, the more I read the more I know God but then I also realize there is a lot more about him that I didn't realize and that I haven't gotten to know. Kind of like when you like someone and you think they are pretty cool and then you find out some new interesting fact about them that added a whole new dimension and you wonder what else there is that you don't know.

    I love Jeremiah and how human he was through his struggles. And his scribe Baruch complaining (I had Chapter 45 on my bulletin board at work for a year) Don't seek great things for yourself..for I will bring disaster on all people... but wherever you go I will let you escape with your life.

    That is how it is I think. We are in a constant battle here on earth. But God has promised us that we will escape with our lives.

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  4. Those are good points- and if the Bible makes things clearer for you, that is good. I have found, for me, however- that the more "answers" I discover, the more questions they raise. The more I learn about God the more I realize He is more complex and mysterious than I had previously thought.

    It is like that in other subjects for me, too- the more I learn of philosophy, history, military, etc.- the more I realize that there is more out there that I am ignorant of.

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